The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. . Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Is this you? In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. ? Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. The first would be Nessus. I have more compassion for myself, and I feel validated some ~ not to identify more as a victim. We`ve known each other for a few months and generally it is a good relationship. "In Greek art Eros was depicted as a winged youth, slight but beautiful, often with eyes covered to symbolize the blindness of love. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. It is the passion of lovers and the pure, primal love of a mother for her baby. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. Also, there is no abuse either way. Is this a synastry, Ariel? Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! Is it relevant? In fact, it is the opposite. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. (both in Capricorn) I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? Uranus is kink, so you do the math. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. When someone's planet touches our natal Eros in synastry, it is as if we have been stuck by Cupid's arrow. Who is whom? How would it play out if my boyfriends Dejanira is conjunct my venus/juno conjunction but my venus/juno is part of a grand trine with my midheaven and also my moon/Bella/mars/pluto conjunction? Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. Who would bring who abuse? I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. Lets see. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! Posts: 9778 From: Death Star . Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. The conjunction is excact. His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. For teaching purposes, one must break things down, so it may seem like it is contrary but it is really not, imo, Sandy. It is desire, it is passion and love. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. Amazingly accurate. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. Hardly. That`s very interesting information. Hi, Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Thank you, Lo and Welcome There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. My jupiter conjunct his sun and venus. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. It may be off a few minutes and change things. If you know, let me know! I'm so cappy Knowflake . I read some things. I am worried about being the abuser here. Knowing more. Or can my Sun hurt the person. I suppose I should add that. Chiron conjunct sun. I would have to consider the scenarios more. We have no moon aspects will this help? My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. What I've read about Lilith makes it seem to me that she's sort of like the Feminine's Pluto with lots of primal sexual urges thrown in, so I'm sure she rooted herself comfortably into your already heavily Plutonic relationships. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. I often see this aspect in the charts of couples who have been married for many years. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. You truly made my day! I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. 1. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. It's been suggested that an understanding of someone's natal Eros gives you the keys to unlock their erotic desires. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. It is like sky diving. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. It is sad! These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. These are too many questions for text. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. I have my dejanira conjuct by one degree with my AC line. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? Planets and asteroids will be modified when they aspect each other, this the possibilities are endless. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. Partners switch roles? Can it be dangerous amiann? As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. 1) What would it mean when my nessus conjuncts his nessus? Thanks! It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! Will be keeping my wits about me. Great questions. so, quick question, where do I post it? Thats not the truth. would you please shed some light as you see fit? on Dejanira and Nessus. orb). I agree with Sydney. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. Hello, what a great article, thank you. I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . It is a pleasure to be here. I am one person with one persons experience, of course. Thats your opinion. Eros contacts in synastry have been touted as creating attraction that cannot be denied. Hmm I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. The exception would be the person who overcame it through God. It is opinion, not truth. Thanks SO much for your kind words. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. It makes me feel very crazy. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Thanks for your help Amiann. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. The chart never lies, my Friend. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. lol. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. And my pluto trine his sun and venus..xxx, Mars sq Pluto can be violence and/or violent/strong passions. Not sure which one id prefer. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. You have such a sweet spirit. What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? I would say that there must be wonderful soul connections that keep down the abuse that would come up without these. We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Then my Nessus is 29 Cancer in almost exact opposition with the child asteroid at 28 Cap. crap. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. Thank you for your reply. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? . I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? I would need to see more, Jenn! In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. Did you know I had one? A Lilith conjunct Mars synastry creates an intense hot affair that can lead to abuse of power and hostility, and this couple must learn to take care of each other before passion consumes their lives.